goodbye

I'll leave the Blog up but it's clear that I may never find the time to play with HHO again.

I'll be back

Wow! I checked in after taking off for a few months, only to discover I have a bunch of subscribers.

I'm sorry I had no idea. My interests have been all over the place during the past few months, so I feel like I should to let you know where I'm at.

My HHO research has come to a stand still, but I'm not done. At some point I will build, and install the License Plate Generator in a vehicle which can be tuned to accept the HHO. My 94 Tracer does not allow for timing adjustment .

I'm currently of the belief that using simple stainless steel plates will never yield much more than 6 mmw. I have not built the Mars Cell with a ceramic insulator, but hope to complete that some day too. This may yield a slightly higher mmw.

Experiments with exotic surface treatments such as cobalt phosphate have promise, but may be far too expensive ($1000). We will have to see if that works well enough to justify the cost.

Please don't give up on this blog. I will eventually return, but I have other interests right now which I must pursue.

I did get my License Plate Generator on Auto Cad. If you would like to save the cost of that design work you can down load the Auto CAD Drawings with this link. Most CNC's charge for this service if you bring in a simple mechanical drawing.

Bob

144% Efficiency

"Clean, carbon-neutral hydrogen on the horizon"

Power Supply Has Arrived

I got the power supply from Mouser today and will build the circuit in the near future. Thanks to Greg who directed me to a thread on Waterfuelforall.com I was able to find this little gem. http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtwaiKVUtQsNVamEOXRmvD%2fR9V1UxYyOkQ%3d

It's affordable, has a 92% efficiency, it's very small at about 1.25" x 2.00". It's capable of 40A at 2VDC which, makes it almost perfect for this application. Why is it almost? Well 40 Amps is not enough, to power a cell in a vehicle, I will have to run several in parallel, but at $30 each I think that’s OK.

I don't understand how I’m supposed to get 40A through those little tiny pins but I have faith it will work. My last concern is that while 92% is a pretty good efficiency I'm still loosing 8%. If this cell is ably to do 6mmw an 8% loss would bring the total efficiency down to 5.52mmw which is achievable with a simple 5N cell. So the question is – Can I make more than 6 mmw with a no loss cell?

I have a few ideas but it’s getting elaborate and has nothing to do with this 0N cell design. First idea is to power the cell with a Z-Max TGM, TEG or other Seabeck effect device. http://www.tellurex.com/videos/video_2.html

The second idea I have flies in the face of common opinion. Rather than keeping the cell cool I propose heating the cell from the exhaust to bring the efficiency up.

High efficiency cell

$187.00 60A DC converter

http://www.epn-online.com/page/new50730/fully-programmable-dc-dc-converter-reduces-pcb-traces-by-up-to-90-.html

Or build the board using a PTH12030W/L for even less money. But this would also require adding a filter circuit.

http://focus.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/pth12030w.pdf

By feeding each plate with it's own voltage (+-+-+-+-+-+-) the current losses should be completely eliminated and there would be no need for neutral plates. The plate voltage can be adjusted with precision thereby maintaining peak efficiency. Current limiting protection is already incorporated into this device.

Assuming 6mmw and running this DC converter at 50A 2VDC or 100W (slightly below it's maximum rated output ) the HHO output would be 600 ml/min. If more HHO is required just add more units. More testing will have to be done to determine if better than 6mmw is possible. I have heard that 8mmw has been achieved by the EBN crew. I envision this small supply being incorporated as part of the dry cell unit, there by reducing the wire harness to a single wire input and reducing losses due to wire resistance.

I'd like to hear feedback on this idea.